RT @punishedkimbo: If fetal pain at that stage could be proven, give the embryo anaesthetic We're not using it as an excuse to stop abort…
@DankReject Of course we can debate when does sentience come into place. Here are some sources. As I said, prior to sentience I really have no moral issue with it. https://t.co/UkvVlfiNOj https://t.co/ueVCXbCxJm https://t.co/ChMEMBcabH
If fetal pain at that stage could be proven, give the embryo anaesthetic We're not using it as an excuse to stop abortions sorry
@realBockmann @MLindy76 https://t.co/7CHYnfvTix https://t.co/eH4dgKquNl https://t.co/s1j6A2Q4H6 Overall, the evidence, and a balanced reading of that evidence,points towards an immediate and unreflective pain experience mediated by the developing functi
@ErikHagstrom1 @LifeNewsHQ @KristanHawkins @SFLAction I'll address each one of your pictures. For your first one, it's outdated. New research shows that unborn babies can feel pain at 12 weeks: https://t.co/pYBvjR42ox For your second, different phases of
@punishedkimbo @SingSingSing43 “we no longer view fetal pain... in a gestational window of 12–24 weeks as impossible based on the neuroscience.” "Currently... we are not aware of any procedures where invasive fetal intervention proceeds without anesthesia
@CounterApologis @B_Y_3 Incorrect. Research has shown that unborn babies can feel pain at 12 weeks: https://t.co/pYBvjR4Ae5 https://t.co/56CQcEFuSW
@RemembersAlways @can_unity @ksorbs @RepMTG @MDease2 @AlbertaLeonidas @MattWalshBlog @RockofLifeNI @CampaignLife @TrueDerekSloan @PPFA The very terminology 'anti-choice' tells me what the conclusions are. If there's any doubt, would you not rather give an
@ImWatson91 Unique DNA- moment of fertilization https://t.co/N1dywLnilp Heartbeat- 5 weeks Feels pain- 12 weeks https://t.co/j7RWZCmezg Only about 1% of abortions happen b/c of rape. Most happen b/c ppl just don't want to take responsibility for their ac
@Nokidsnomoney3 @traaademark @perfectframe0 @web_rant @JordanUhl For most of pregnancy, fetuses are indeed sentient human life https://t.co/ZPmk1m3wgl
@SorexOrnatus @uwuGummy @web_rant @JordanUhl A fetus can feel pain at 12 weeks but you don’t seem to have compassion for them. Someone killing you by pulling off your limbs and then crushing your skull would be pretty horrific I imagine and yet you think
@baybarsorsek Hey Baybars, here's a 2020 paper titled "Reconsidering fetal pain" by apparently the same Stuart Derbyshire who wrote the paper justifying @LogicallyAI's preposterous abortion fact check. https://t.co/RQ7fFqSvKA
This from a pro-abortion doctor: “neuroscience cannot definitively rule out fetal pain before 24 weeks. We consider the possibility that the mere experience of pain, without the capacity for self reflection, is morally significant.” https://t.co/5w0c7Je
@OliveOwl6 @proabortcomrade @LilaGraceRose Equivalence is not evidence. The thalamus is as early as 7-8 weeks. Reflex (a stress response) precedes a functional cortex (24 weeks). Dr. Derbyshire co-wrote the RCOG report on Fetal Awareness, changed his posit
@areyouawitchor2 But tbh while I think most abortions happen before a fetus is sentient a significant minority of abortions happen when a fetus could plausibly be sentient. I think sentience in fetuses can occur earlier than many think... https://t.co/1Zal
RT @DianneN10: @NathanNobis @TotalRestraint “….you often have to get to that by way of fetal pain research” Unfortunately many of the refe…
@SolarxPvP @MatthewHartke Anyways these papers challenge the "pain only occurs at 24 weeks" idea: https://t.co/b4bUx98naE
@j_bbrav0 @_emilyrarick @Heather4amazon You haven't proven consciousness is tied to human rights. Nevertheless, that definition of pain goes beyond consciousness, even nocioception, requiring "reflection," connecting the stimulus to the pain, & an emo
RT @TeofiloHispano: @alftab3 @el_pais @Shareaholic Entiendo que quiso decir 20 semanas. Ahora la ciencia sabe que bastante antes: “Reconsi…
@squishsmawmaw @MegGold3 @melJsaysso @RockofLifeNI I'm sorry. My daughter came. https://t.co/1hNUPMUXUb… https://t.co/NAnbv5j1US… https://t.co/GwHUjauosR… Appearance of fetal pain could be associated with maturation of the mesodiencephalic structures ht
@wifeofanagp @_Felicitas12 Schon für Sie. Nutzen Sie dieses Talent. https://t.co/MmCrr5jgnU
@atriana @prochoice_trash @LisaWinslow Modern science says otherwise. https://t.co/LWNCQRrJBe
@hollybRN07 @Awright874 @horishnym1 @Danny__Spring @llambchop916 @SkippityDooooo @TheBasedTrinity @secularprolife @RonCole80482262 You're denying science. Appeal to authority. Fail. https://t.co/RLatXQAzua But what would you know about science? You're an a
@deathmaniek @reynon_pl @KlaudiaDomagala @AM_Zukowska Nom, było wiele badań, nawet w których brali udział naukowcy skłaniający się ku stanowisku anti-choice i najwcześniej kiedy płód może czuć ból, nawet według tych anti-choice to 12 tydzień. https://t.co/
@Aksinia00447 @_emilyrarick Who are you referring to? Pregnant females or the babies whose bodies are being subjected to the deadly effects of abortion procedures? Both?
@pythagoras999 The debate over fetal consciousness is heated and I need to review the evidence more thoroughly. But if we conservatively assume that the threshold is 12 weeks (based on the review below), my definition would entail that abortion is immoral
@ObsConservative @Winning4Him @RebelRae13 @Vixen95Trish @azile3point0 @RepEscobar Bc we know they can feel things much earlier than 26 weeks. https://t.co/y7nQuZIMjd
@ObsConservative @CShitposting @RebelRae13 @azile3point0 @RepEscobar And show me ONE study that proves when fetal pain begins. Just one... Spoiler: there isn't one because no one knows for sure. But here is an article from 2020. https://t.co/9ESZYeFLZQ
@disabilityharpy @TheVoodooQueen @Kuntrella @MPMelo11 @NJBeisner Recent studies show they can feel pain as early as 12 weeks https://t.co/yMvo9rHeNl
@Maritzaaa15 @AlltheCanines @LotusEater29 @METALMAYHEM2021 @CNN Why take the chance? https://t.co/squZfzytrR
Clinical ethics Reconsidering fetal pain #BMJ https://t.co/19aWuoLspD
@AzarTheGuy We used to think newborns couldn't feel pain either. https://t.co/WHmiRzeSbF
@EffEastman @marjoriesba Maybe you should look over this research from @realBockmann https://t.co/GaB03AoQmk
@sweettechgrad @NMalone8 @DudeBroDook @CNN Mothers should allow their children to be born, provide palliative care and not the pain of being ripped apart in the womb. https://t.co/DzTErEaKYH
@ac418471 @Winning4Him @GalVitamin @RealScottScoble @fontane_jimmy @fred_guttenberg @TheRealHoarse The ability to feel pain? Why is that your line? https://t.co/yZwjj4nnxq
RT @to_discussion: Just passed a billboard for pregnancy support that also noted fetal pain by 12 weeks. Love it! ❤️ If I see another, I'll…
Just passed a billboard for pregnancy support that also noted fetal pain by 12 weeks. Love it! ❤️ If I see another, I'll get a picture. #ProLife https://t.co/WhAKGiO6m7
@punished_rigga @23wjohnston @RealDanGill https://t.co/RLatXQAzua Unconscious things aren't supposed to feel pain
@OliveOwl6 @kip_stiles @RavBogard https://t.co/44g5Yoh6Gi Again, we can agree to disagree. But valid neuroscience research exists to dispute the necessity of cortex to feel pain. Have a good one!
@disabilityharpy @BonzillaG @flower114414 @redusa21 https://t.co/SyhnyCKOR2 https://t.co/ahxfuuV8OU https://t.co/7CHYnfvTix https://t.co/eH4dgKquNl “…proposed that the fetus is exposed to rudimentary painful stimuli starting from the 15th gestation week
@Kaily_Bear @DermotKearney3 @themouthyoufeed @Newnameel @WritingDCM @MercCode We really don’t know much. Except there is lots of evidence that a fetus begins to feel pain & joy much earlier than we previously thought. https://t.co/GaB03AoQmk
@MessiEra10_ @POTUS You’re a man. Mind your business. https://t.co/uIVlApNkH1
@BarackObama For any remaining people of conscience amongst your followers since spiritual and constitutional considerations are deemed irrelevant to the myopic Right to Choose (death): https://t.co/VEZRpsit7a
@britt4jade @HouseGOP https://t.co/nI3j50oicJ https://t.co/uxqmT4bluM Your choice of research doesn't make it fact. Your cherry picking the research that fits your needs.
@SophieShay @femturnedwife Embryos & fetuses are biological children of their parents Their brains function exactly as they should for their development EEG waves have been recorded at 45 days https://t.co/P2pQgENGFa They may also experience pain
@HedyFry @JustinTrudeau They should be banned after 15 weeks. Plus, I don't want my taxes going towards paying for other people's abortions. https://t.co/uIVlApNkH1
@MandyMo007 @BryanToton @LilaGraceRose https://t.co/SyhnyCKOR2 https://t.co/eH4dgKquNl https://t.co/s1j6A2Q4H6 Overall, the evidence, and a balanced reading of that evidence, points towards an immediate and unreflective pain experience mediated by the d
RT @Aborti0nRights: Today's WHATABOUTISM brought to you by: "Eeeeewwwwuh" "But, but - what about how gross that looks? Isn't that scary?…
Today's WHATABOUTISM brought to you by: "Eeeeewwwwuh" "But, but - what about how gross that looks? Isn't that scary? So icky. You should feel ashamed and just obey." 🥺
@GingerTitan94 @SuzanneBos43679 @theladykatie @Aborti0nRights Cool sounds good "In a D&E, the cervix is dilated, the amniotic fluid drained, and the fetus is removed in pieces via several surgical maneuvers using grasping forceps." https://t.co/HsZ25
@PascaleStOnge_ Je ne crois pas que la discussion sur l'avortement soit terminée. Je ne suis pas d'accord que les avortements sont considérés des soins de santé (payé par nos impôts). Aussi je crois que ça devrait être interdits après 15 semaines de gesta
@felicia_hart13 @TheNamesErica @proabortcomrade Science denial is the heart of pro abortion arguments! Yet again 😂 https://t.co/4afo81GdGy
@alenadundas @BPAS1968 https://t.co/En1uFIXxDW I agree,but there are 3rd tri babies who 'legally' suffer the same around the world. This article is interesting cos latest research & the 2 work together with opp views on abortion. But depressingly,aroun
@c_gribbs @mxmassive4 @sophielouisecc Yes, that's why they're banned after 24 weeks unless the mothers life is at risk. https://t.co/lgMWuz5gqj
@ZombieTron Given that 80/90% babies survive if born after 29 weeks gestation and can feel pain from 24 weeks (https://t.co/7RlvVrei9r), I believe that yes, it should be illegal. If it is needed/wanted, it needs to be done by a qualified medical professio
@sibaburck @henri_mourant Given that evidence exists for much earlier, why don’t you apply the precautionary principle and just avoid justifying the killing of innocent and living human beings?
@AnimalsRockOn @MaryMargOlohan About that medical evidence. It's outdated. https://t.co/vsfLJ6aKTx
@PegLegJim @AndersEigen You’re assuming there’s no pain, you don’t know. There are studies of fetal pain that say otherwise. https://t.co/GaB03AoQmk
@Ethyriallll @halomancer1 Okay, we'll start with the obvious. I am already aware that the other 10% of abortions are done to beings that could have awareness and even pain as they are being ripped apart. That is 10% too many. It should be as close to 0% as
@theladykatie @gelatinpacket I find this sources pretty convincing. If you have anything to show me they are wrong please share then. https://t.co/UkvVlfiNOj https://t.co/ueVCXbCxJm https://t.co/ChMEMBcabH
@BioTurboNick @theladykatie I read this paper and I lost confidence in that cut off. But I'm not an expert so I could be wrong. https://t.co/1ZaltvjYEL
@ExMuslimsMN @theladykatie I don't buy this idea of sentience only appearing at 24 weeks (the brain obviously begins to develop before that but the argument normally is about sentience): https://t.co/29QF4IUF0d
RT @EveKeneinan: Like every appeal to "factchecking" organization, this is false. Fetuses feel pain late in the FIRST trimester, at around…
RT @EveKeneinan: Like every appeal to "factchecking" organization, this is false. Fetuses feel pain late in the FIRST trimester, at around…
RT @EveKeneinan: Like every appeal to "factchecking" organization, this is false. Fetuses feel pain late in the FIRST trimester, at around…
RT @EveKeneinan: Like every appeal to "factchecking" organization, this is false. Fetuses feel pain late in the FIRST trimester, at around…
Like every appeal to "factchecking" organization, this is false. Fetuses feel pain late in the FIRST trimester, at around 12 weeks: https://t.co/VTT4JY8LWZ The question of fetal pain is irrelevant to the context, but I needn't let falsehoods pass.
RT @EddGorenstein: Draining the amniotic fluid does not kill the fetus. Tearing it into tiny pieces is what kills it. If the procedure is d…
@JanieChuckles What makes you think 2005? How do fetuses who live in 2005 feel pain differently from fetuses who live now anyway? https://t.co/Ugominhuqh
Draining the amniotic fluid does not kill the fetus. Tearing it into tiny pieces is what kills it. If the procedure is done after 13 weeks (as ~10% of abortions are), it could be conscious and feel pain. If it is done at 20 weeks, it DEFINITELY feels pain.
@g_lamarche @Ape_of_Verity @ask_aubry Baby is a colloquial term used to refer to fetuses, newborns and toddlers. A fetus is sentient between 8 and 13 weeks. Ripping one apart after that is torture. https://t.co/ZPmk1m445T
@zrdunn16 @praisel_richard @TheGenderCritic @sogensannin @CensoredMen Wrong again. Sentience occurs between 8-13 weeks. Also babies have been born as early as 21 weeks and survived. Do you mean to say those babies don’t have consciousness? https://t.co
@Ariana_Brown @chrssycrackhead @sapphirefloofy @Glackattack2 @eavespop @radfemswiftie 1. A fetus in that range is likely conscious too 2. What you look like should not affect what human rights you have. 3. Born children are not fully developed either so