@PalmBchCitizen @JohnFetterman Then call it 'life' All indicators, like feeling pain, heart beat, cranial activity etc are detected at various stages, in the fetus. So abortion kills LIFE https://t.co/SHaevw04nc Do u really want to be a typical leftist..
@nerdgirldv @ThyGeekdomCome @janinemariececi @Catholic4Choice Another article for the idiot in denial: https://t.co/1bUVCNy1UK
@WhigBobKendrick @BumpstockBarbie Now we have medical research to begin looking into this because it is an indicator of brain function & sentience.
@mochimorgs @TP7187 @Emcee322 @dwally_215 @therecount Setting aside my religious beliefs, there’s the issues of the humane treatment of fetuses and father’s parental rights. Most importantly, there’s not a consensus as to when a fetus can feel pain - scien
@fla1269 @J_Wells_Design @Thom_Hartmann I mostly agree with you as the current body of literature leans that way but more and more I’m finding papers like these: https://t.co/tkzcy2a5wz It seems to be more complicated than I once t
@JMWhit6 @MeghanMcCain Most Rs support a ban on abortion after 15 weeks. What's more radical, 15 mos ban or allow an 8 mos 29 day old baby to be ripped apart in a mother's womb? quote: "...neuroscience cannot definitively rule out fetal pain before 24 w
@ChiHoneyBear @Thomas_Young77 @BumpstockBarbie @AsherSummerson @haz_beard @EmmaJClemmons @BunchesOfStoats @B52Malmet "Overall, the evidence, and a balanced reading of that evidence, points towards an immediate and unreflective pain experience mediated by t
@ChristineRmiki @EmmaJClemmons @ericswalwell “we no longer view fetal pain... in a gestational window of 12–24 weeks as impossible based on the neuroscience.” "Currently... we are not aware of any procedures where invasive fetal intervention proceeds with
@GrzegorzLinkie4 @EmiRosz @PrezydentkaI skoro już się przerzucamy linkami, to polecam ten artykuł z 2020 r. (a nie 2010): https://t.co/qso34Qojku to, że płód odczuwa ból, choć nie ma jeszcze samoświadomości (to 24 tydzień), nie sprawia, że nie cierpi
@kharvickin2015 @rickannie84 @CalltoActivism Here's the article. https://t.co/eWEaOrP88r
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@Raynasts @SandyBeachesFJB @chipfranklin “we no longer view fetal pain... in a gestational window of 12–24 weeks as impossible based on the neuroscience.” "Currently... we are not aware of any procedures where invasive fetal intervention proceeds without
@littlebatCanada @ThisFromAndrew @ashlaurlune @redusa21 “we no longer view fetal pain... in a gestational window of 12–24 weeks as impossible based on the neuroscience.” "Currently... we are not aware of any procedures where invasive fetal intervention pr
@tangy_tarin @GtrTaz @FoxNews “Currently, therefore, we are not aware of any procedures where invasive fetal intervention proceeds without anaesthesia or analgesia, except for abortion. “ here is one https://t.co/1vKgizmeQ8
@JackieFrancesca @JCAKE12 @Janemarch888 @Mister_Managr @EmmaJClemmons @autocorrect2_0 “we no longer view fetal pain... in a gestational window of 12–24 weeks as impossible based on the neuroscience.” "Currently... we are not aware of any procedures where
RT @TeofiloHispano: @alftab3 @el_pais @Shareaholic Entiendo que quiso decir 20 semanas. Ahora la ciencia sabe que bastante antes: “Reconsi…
@prochoicefoxes @redusa21 “we no longer view fetal pain... in a gestational window of 12–24 weeks as impossible based on the neuroscience.” "Currently... we are not aware of any procedures where invasive fetal intervention proceeds without anesthesia... e
@Str8AdaKailua @GovHawaii You can dislike it all you want, but what you will not be allowed to do here is spread misinformation to try and manipulate people. Get help. https://t.co/hXFH6Y2KYO
@Pepas69480418 “we no longer view fetal pain... in a gestational window of 12–24 weeks as impossible based on the neuroscience.” "Currently... we are not aware of any procedures where invasive fetal intervention proceeds without anesthesia... except for a
@prhdocs “we no longer view fetal pain... in a gestational window of 12–24 weeks as impossible based on the neuroscience.” "Currently... we are not aware of any procedures where invasive fetal intervention proceeds without anesthesia... except for abortio
@razorconfetti @autocorrect2_0 @feminemi1y @scragsma70 @BunchesOfStoats False. You are arguing only about whether they cognitively experience and understand pain the same way we do, not whether they actually feel it. Oops. https://t.co/UYOwv8ZoKi https:/
@bammba_m @feminemi1y “we no longer view fetal pain... in a gestational window of 12–24 weeks as impossible based on the neuroscience.” "Currently... we are not aware of any procedures where invasive fetal intervention proceeds without anesthesia... excep
@LT_IR @undeliciouscake @jenny_the5th @Abtreibpranger Erzählen Sie mir bitte mehr über die mit Schwangerschaft und Geburt verbundenen Schmerzen! Nichts an ihnen rechtfertigt die Tötung eines Menschen. Re: Schmerzempfinden - https://t.co/MmCrr5iIym
@CMoney1061 @Dogsrgreat2 @Incognito_Emily @EmmaJClemmons @n5iln “we no longer view fetal pain... in a gestational window of 12–24 weeks as impossible based on the neuroscience.” "Currently... we are not aware of any procedures where invasive fetal interve
@la_r_po @intranick @sourpatchlyds I am pro-choice but it is not that simple. Scientific debate about fetal pain seems to be ongoing. Read this: https://t.co/LIQV7LEZZ7
RT @BrephosUK: https://t.co/MBNROxjnQE Even pro-aborts are beginning to concede that babies might feel pain well below the UK abortion lim…
https://t.co/MBNROxjnQE Even pro-aborts are beginning to concede that babies might feel pain well below the UK abortion limit, and that this is morally significant. Should babies be given pain killers before being poisoned or dismembered to death?
@ArthurHame @IDprisonproject Now, you want to talk about brains??? The brain begins developing around 6 weeks. They may have enough neurologic development to feel as early as 12 weeks. So, I'm sure you're opposed to abortion after that.https://t.co/uLcImGi
@Mandrita12 @arleqinbataglia @BCF951 @G2Ikari @Gronow66 @carmen_hertz @jgalemparte Mejor le es un poco sobre lo que se ha descubierto últimamente sobre el desarrollo fetal y la capacidad de sentir dolor. Así dejarias de hacer menciones a la lechuga. htt
@MetzlerMD @ReverendWarnock Tell them.!! https://t.co/1vKgiz4DYA
@ReverendWarnock “Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly.” If you believe that you would not Support. Late term abortions on demand. Follow the science.! Scientists and medical professionals say at 15 weeks a Fetus feels pain.! https://t.co/
@etbe2000 @MartinDougher12 @AnneGup07508961 @SBG4LF @Catholic4Choice "Here, more recent evidence calling into question the necessity of the cortex for pain and demonstrating functional thalamic connectivity into the subplate is used to argue that the neuro
@CatGrah17554541 @johnrich https://t.co/rdTJ5QngHO pain possible at 12 weeks in this paper.
@Doc58856939 @rrm4a @MrPringlz @briantylercohen https://t.co/PTPXM2Vkpv I was taking apart your analogy of fetuses to building materials — what does cats feeling pain have to do with it? The better question: Do fetal cats feel pain, and does that support
@fla1269 @ianbein95 @PamEllaCasual @minguslives @RogerMarshallMD Same author changed his mind in 2020. Now states that fetal pain possible at 12 weeks gestation. https://t.co/922KYG5m6O
@treddingonyou @nanwhaley Again Journal of medical ethics…. Stop with your feelings and follow the science. https://t.co/1vKgiz4DYA
@olachola2 @goingtokentucky @NotaBotUR @ashlee_leeee @CBSNews "Overall, the evidence, and a balanced reading of that evidence, points towards an immediate and unreflective pain experience mediated by the developing function of the nervous system from as ea
@marksugruek @23wjohnston Here’s another, that also argues it is well before 24 weeks. https://t.co/CXoxhRH1sw
@GabeTrentPower @JackieParshall @rising_serpent @benshapiro Supreme court does not decide viability dude lol. And babies have a heartbeat at 7 weeks. Read this, it might be educational for you, although your denialism is immovable. https://t.co/aFVIvaeoi
@cattybicth It's just the first line. And the study is linked in the article. See https://t.co/EqkHSTZwat
https://t.co/1PZQ5pg1cU Straight from the Journal of Medical Ethics: 'We consider the possibility that the mere experience of pain, without the capacity for self reflection, is morally significant.'
@LiteraryMouse Abortions should be outlawed everywhere after the first trimester, as the baby feels pain after that. https://t.co/uIVlApNSwz
@LittleMammith @HowethLewis I’ve made it pretty obvious that I don’t have a deontic concern for life, rather sentience. Also there is no scientific consensus on when sentience begins (some say 24w some say as early as 8w). https://t.co/NxdTZFe5Z8
@Daria56734174 @AntekCFC @kasiababis Słyszałem teorie o 24 tygodniu, ale 30/35? Skąd ty to wzięłaś xd https://t.co/JNPtR6O7wo https://t.co/Qz07gGpcEi
@ghucon @lexfridman I actually happen to agree with that. I think abortion should depend upon the amount of pain and suffering involved. At 12 weeks the embryo can't feel pain or suffer, after 24 weeks it can. I believe the moderate position is somewhere b
@mjrsmith5 @lexfridman My abortion stance is based on reducing the amount of overall pain and suffering. Anything before 12 weeks the embryo can't feel pain or suffer, anything after 24 weeks it can. Anything in between should be the parents and doctors d
@thedepthstar @lexfridman As for the issue of abortion, I generally do take a moderate view based on the ability to feel pain. Anything before 12 weeks the fetus can't feel pain or suffer, anything after 24 weeks they can feel pain and suffer. I'm the swe
@mattkolesar @mikevanbus @lexfridman You know I always thought the magic number was somewhere between 12-24 weeks, based on the ability to feel pain (which itself is based on brain development). Anything before 12 is OK (no suffering), anything after 24 th
Embarrassing for @acog and @RuthMarcus Citing old science as a gotcha when the modern scientific understanding is very clear that by 15 week an unborn child feels pain https://t.co/WTkKXJpAZ4
@MiamiHerald That's awesome. It should be outlawed everywhere after the first trimester, as the baby feels pain after that. https://t.co/Ut4ngNg2B5
@ProblemChilds22 @sydrasmith @mkraju Most science sources, including doctors giving congressional testimony, acknowledge that the fetus can feel pain at ~15 weeks. A doctor who once disputed that has since updated his views. https://t.co/0GfxuClMAl
@Bert_MSU @14Truth14 @WalshFreedom @LindseyGrahamSC That's hardly settled science, wouldn't it just be the more moral thing to encourage women to make the decision as soon as possible? https://t.co/2xlXVM5t1B
@Jim88175969 @1PardonMyFrench @JohnFetterman Actually this paper from 2020 might surprise you…
@JohnFetterman “we no longer view fetal pain... in a gestational window of 12–24 weeks as impossible based on the neuroscience.” "Currently... we are not aware of any procedures where invasive fetal intervention proceeds without anesthesia... except for a
@captradecapture I don’t think “How late should abortions be allowed” is a particularly medical question rather than an ethical one. That being said, a lot of doctors have endorsed 15-week bans on the basis of caution (as it’s unclear when fetuses start to
@LEBassett 👇🏾👇🏾👇🏾 There is a solid scientific argument for fetal pain at 12 weeks. https://t.co/KPfnItsehw
@LEBassett There is a solid scientific argument for fetal pain at 12 weeks. https://t.co/KPfnItrGrY
There is a solid scientific argument for fetal pain at 12 weeks. https://t.co/kEvlqBTJ7L
@LEBassett I wasn't sure about either Graham's claim or yours, so I did a little digging. I found this and thought you might find it interesting. Not conclusive, but a worthwhile consideration: https://t.co/acN7i0V0me
@GloPaintsDogs @Serenityin24 @Wolfiesmom I’m not dense simply because I don’t agree w/you on what is a moral and legal issue. The legal decision is made - we were simply discussing the case. Setting aside Dobbs leaves only with morality & medical ethic
@GloPaintsDogs @Serenityin24 @Wolfiesmom I doubt that -it’s not why I’m opposed. A fertilized egg is a human life at its earliest state of being - that’s science. The idea of a baby suffering, even on a lesser level, horrifies me. It’s not strictly a woman
@jrusso691 @slackeyj @kjomad @owillis @MarcieChiarello I’m guessing you are neither a woman nor a doctor, so sit down: “Given that the cortex only becomes functional and the tracts only develop after 24 weeks, many reports rule out fetal pain until the fin
@saymaysmith @dccc @GrassrootsDemHQ Its a ban after 15 weeks reflecting most of European countries & recent research on fetal pain. https://t.co/KTyi5d8MC3
“we no longer view fetal pain... in a gestational window of 12–24 weeks as impossible based on the neuroscience.” "Currently... we are not aware of any procedures where invasive fetal intervention proceeds without anesthesia... except for abortion" https
@GeoffRBennett “we no longer view fetal pain... in a gestational window of 12–24 weeks as impossible based on the neuroscience.” "Currently... we are not aware of any procedures where invasive fetal intervention proceeds without anesthesia... except for a
@rustyapples @politicsrea @chrislhayes It was once believed and well accepted by scientific circles that infants didn't have the capacity to feel pain. The science has evolved. Regardless: elective abortion is wrong. https://t.co/UWj8I9fQkL
@CloudyPinesSys @johnhawkinsrwn @Wolfiesmom There’s no consensus as to when a fetus can feel pain - scientists argue from as early as 8 wks. MDs confirm fetuses react during abortion.Not just a woman’s issue & competing societal issues to consider, inc
@jaco13m @StupidRock “we no longer view fetal pain... in a gestational window of 12–24 weeks as impossible based on the neuroscience.” "Currently... we are not aware of any procedures where invasive fetal intervention proceeds without anesthesia... except
It appears likely that fetuses feel great pain during abortions. https://t.co/ud50ZsExzS
Diversas publicaciones recomiendan anestesiar al feto para prevenir su sufrimiento durante el aborto. Es un contrasentido. Si el feto sufre, entonces ya es un ser humano. https://t.co/G8FgH1G98u
@nilikm @JustinTrudeau @PierrePoilievre Abortions should be banned after the first trimester, and doctors shouldn’t be the ones doing the procedure. https://t.co/uIVlApNSwz There are many medical ethics violations taking place as far as tissue procureme
@secularprolife Mainly this paper. https://t.co/crxZzVhjtF
@GovernorTomWolf “we no longer view fetal pain... in a gestational window of 12–24 weeks as impossible based on the neuroscience.” "Currently... we are not aware of any procedures where invasive fetal intervention proceeds without anesthesia... except for
@sk8ter_bobby @strictlyRhythm_ @to_discussion @AngryPhoenix22 Try reading next the whole thing next time. https://t.co/4bTxXQQ79q
In 2020, Derbyshire came to the conclusion that "a balanced reading of that evidence, points towards an immediate and unreflective pain experience mediated by the developing function of the nervous system from as early as 12 weeks." https://t.co/R4g35rPB9r
@sk8ter_bobby “we no longer view fetal pain... in a gestational window of 12–24 weeks as impossible based on the neuroscience.” "Currently... we are not aware of any procedures where invasive fetal intervention proceeds without anesthesia... except for ab
@nadineD58815822 @tdyhvnccj4 @CortlandMcgraw @NikkiCatania @VladaKnowlton @RachelBitecofer This is from the article "reconsidering fetal pain" which is widely cited by anti-choice forced birther organizations As you can see here, even THESE scientists ad
@tomekGwcst @mateuszochman Tak to definiują naukowcy :) https://t.co/mQL05wvqRn
@AnnaMarzec5 @lisieckipawel Granica 12 tygodni nie jest z powietrza https://t.co/mQL05wvqRn
@tdyhvnccj4 @nadineD58815822 @CortlandMcgraw @NikkiCatania @VladaKnowlton @RachelBitecofer I love this article and I knew you would cite it, even without reading it. I recommend you read it in full. It'll help you see how easily forced birther leadership
@Booly47 @Kingbingo_ @womensmarch I don't give a shit what you said or what framing you want to use. You believe that ripping people apart alive is acceptable. https://t.co/B1bRW7KJZ6
@jltklt22 @Jennife38469105 @CortlandMcgraw @NikkiCatania @VladaKnowlton @RachelBitecofer Here's a link to the full article. Try reading it. https://t.co/yDH4QsMZ1z
@chilijellybeans “we no longer view fetal pain... in a gestational window of 12–24 weeks as impossible based on the neuroscience.” "Currently... we are not aware of any procedures where invasive fetal intervention proceeds without anesthesia... except for
RT @to_discussion: @SenWarren “we no longer view fetal pain... in a gestational window of 12–24 weeks as impossible based on the neuroscien…